Blog Archive

Monday, February 23, 2009

Buy Kenyan, Build Kenya

Kenyans need to make good choices. Now. To save themselves.

Buy Kenyan

It is as simple as that.

Let me state from the outset. Kenyan manufacturers need to be price & quality competitive. This is not a choice for them. They need to give Kenyans value.

For those who cry 'protectionism', I am NOT advocating tariff barriers or quotas or subsidies. I do encourage additional (non-monetary i.e. subsidies) incentives for Kenyan firms like better roads/infrastructure, staff training, lower tax rates, etc.

Your local Nakumatt (or Tusky or Uchumi or grocer) stocks too many foreign goods esp foods. Kenya is an agricultural country. We need to become a major agro-processor as well.

Baked Beans (I like Baked Beans on Toast)

Kenylon (Kabazi Canners of Kenya) manufactures baked beans but it seems Heinz (imported from the UK via Dubai) seems to has a larger display. There are other local brands BUT the imported brands dominate.

So why does Kenya need to import baked beans?

If Nakumatt sells 100,000 cans of Heinz beans (89/-) per month, that would 'save' Kenya $1,200,000 (Kes 100,000,000) annually. 'Save' above means reduce the need for forex to fund imports. I am assuming retail margins of 10%

KShs 100 mn paid to Kabazi means a good portion goes to local farmers, factory workers, other local manufacturers & transporters. And this gets recycled into the local economy as these 'beneficiaries' buy other local goods.

Butter & Cheese

Why does Kenya import butter from New Zealand via Dubai?

KCC, Brookside, Daima, etc has great milk products. We export to the middle east, so why do we import these? We used to import milk products from China. Why?

Kenyan farmers will increase production IF we reduce imports thus boosting local demand.

Snacks/Chocolates/Prepared Foods

I am amazed that Kenya imports crisps, chocolates, biscuits, cereals, chevda (among other Indian snacks), etc

Kenyans produce great products so why the need to import???

Crisps - Krackles, Tropical Heat, etc
Chocolates - Cadburys, Out of Africa (though most ingredients are imported)
Biscuits - House of Manji (the best Digestives), Brittania
Cereals - Weetabix (local), Procter & Allan, etc
Indian snacks - Tropical Heat, Deeps, etc

Kenyan products in this category are generally cheaper than the imports yet we blow away forex & the creation of local jobs.

Why do Kenyans buy 'prepared foods' when we can hire or buy freshly prepared foods locally. As for convenience, there are local firms & SMEs in the market.

Juices/Squashes (fruit drink mixes)

Why don't Kenyans buy more locally produced juice or juice blends or even fruit drink mixes.

There are many local players in this market including:

Del Monte (locally grown pineapples)
Kenylon
Quencher (mainly fruit drink mixes)

And even when we import juices, why not just concentrates that can be re-constituted & packed in Kenya.

And why not drink FRESHLY SQUEEZED juices. Creates jobs for maids, hotel/restaurant workers, etc. Kenyan 'fruit juice' businesses need to lower prices for freshly squeezed juices. I miss the fresh fruit carts in Nairobi's CBD. I could get a juicy slice of pineapple for a mere 10/-.

Spirits/Beer/Wines/Alcohol

I know Kenyan spirts leave little to the imagination but there is hope. Let's by more EABL, Keroche & London Distiller products.

There are few local wines (Mara is imported from S.Africa). Locally produced wines should attract lower taxes. There are other fruit wines that can be produced from locally grown fruits including:

- Passion fruits (I recall passiflora but too dry for my tastes)
- Oranges
- Mango (Has anyone tried?)
- Pineapples (I used to brew a weak version)
- Sugarcane (Rum)

I buy the local Kenya Gold (instead of the imported Baileys) & the local Smirnoff (vs imported vodkas).

And the above is a small sample of the imports. We could 'save' at least $100,000,000 in forex annually if we looked inwards. Add the jobs Kenya could create & the Global Financial Crisis would look less daunting.

62 comments:

Anonymous said...

I am stubbornly a buy Kenyan fanatic. I don't really like KCC cheese, especially the packaging, but you'll never find anything else in the fridge.

Cadbury's remain my favourite chocolates of all time.

coldtusker said...

Pink M: I wish more Kenyans followed your example.

It freaks me out to see imported prepared meals at Nakumatt at a price equivalent to a freshly prepared dinner at Books First.

Have you tried other cheeses e.g. Daima or Raka? They have a decent smorgasbord.

bankelele said...

Great topic,

Let me do a mini post here
Baked Beans: Kenylon only for me
Butter: I’d only buy local Brookside or KCC - same with yoghurt. I noticed Hilton
Meat: FYI Gilani’s at ABC will procure any small meat duck, turkey, pheasant, I’m told
Snacks: tough to find, all the chocolates seem to come from the mid-east but for sure tropical heat crisps, House of Manji and Weetabix
You buy Kenya gold? That stuff looks wicked
Juices & water: now this is where it gets crazy – we have great juices from a half companies including Pick & Peel (Kevian) and Del Monte (stop beating up trespassers)
Yet you find butter from South Africa at the Hilton and oranges form South Africa at Uchumi why?

coldtusker said...

I admit that Imports have forced Kenyan firms to improve packaging & quality.

One import which makes little sense is BEER. Kenyans have great beers... Yet Kenya imports beer!

Banks: Kenya Gold is a little too sweet but mixed with cream/milk it is a great substitute for Baileys.

Unknown said...

This is an excellent piece. I'll keep that in mind.

Kenyan products 4 life!

Unknown said...

Local tourism too...

Anonymous said...

fabulous post! Firstly, Kenylon rocks and nothing comes close to pick and peel tropical especially with a bit of kenyan tonic water in there...I have a few issues with delmonte so I don't buy their stuff but Kakuzi has greatly improved on their pineapples. Like Bankelele I'm a bit iffy with Kenya gold but I will give it a try. KCC is one of the best butters in the world that I have ever laid my taste buds on. I'm doing my thesis on dairy cooperatives and so look for all the small dairy coop produce - they all do some great stuff. So yes...we should all go local!!!

Anonymous said...

I only drink Kenyan tea and Kenyan coffee is considered a gourmet product in America, but I'm seeing a lot more Rwandese and Ethiopian coffee nowadays.

Buy Kenya is good, but if they could increase production, they could export their products abroad and compete in the natural foods/gourmet/organic products market. However, to do that, they'd have to be willing to go through stringent testing and quality standards, but if they did, they could export their goods to America.

Even in the recession, people still want healthy, toxin free, organic food and they are willing to pay extra for it, but so far, the only thing I've seen is kenyan coffee.

Rafiki said...

Great post! Thanks for bringing this up.
If you guys just buy Kenyan products because they are Kenyan, we will never get there, since it will not encourage these companies to continuously improve on their products. You have to buy them because they give you a good price/quality. And quality is the key issue really. I don't mind paying 10 or 20 times more for excellent quality. Kenyan companies need to produce products that can compete in the region or even globally.
pink m: Cadbury chocolates are okay, but not if you have tasted brands like Godiva.
coldtusker: Raka cheeses are superb, I agree with you on that one! But I don't agree with you on the Kenyan beers (apart from Sierra maybe).
I am with banks and misschee on Pick $ Peel (Tropical Mix).
I buy many Kenyan products, not because they are Kenyan, but because they offer me superior quality over money. But I don't boycot or fear foreign products either. Who would buy a Nyayo car?

MainaT said...

Buy quality NSE shares, land, clothes, bata shoes.
There is a shop in London that is importing Kenyan food including Blueband. We go there once a month

Excellent topic.

coldtusker said...

missche: Good luck on the thesis.

Maishinski: Thanks. Local tourism could be so much more. And y so pricey?

KE: Same here. Folks lit up when I said I am from Kenya. Runners & Coffee. Starbucks put us on the map.

Rafiki: Tusker Malt is very good for mainstream beers. I like Sierra as well.

Raka cheeses are a lil' pricey but very good. The food show at Sarit was an eye-opener.

coldtusker said...

MainaT: I used to lug bottles of Peptang hot sauces. I return to Kenya & everyone is chugging tabasco.

P.S. I admit I have a thing for the original Tabasco but the prices in Kenyan shops are insane.

On Del Monte: I am not comfy with all that happens to suspected (or actual) thieves at Del Monte but DM isn't responsible for the poverty in the area. And theft is theft. DM has to protect their plantations/produce. People should not reap where they did not sow. In Kenya, give an inch & take a foot is common.

Anonymous said...

very good post man.

There are South African oranges in my local supermarket too! (Schaumburg IL)

I absolutely love Kenyan products, particularly the food. You will not find butter that tastes like KCC's, no sausages like Farmers choice, no Jam like Zesta, no tea like Kenyan tea and oh my goodness the cadbury's fruit & nut (specifically the one made in Kenya) anywhere else in the world. Seriously, I carry so much food back with me whenever I am home, it boggles my mind why Kenyans are importing so much. Having choice is good, but I wish more people would know just how good our stuff is. At the end of the day, like you said, we need to buy Kenyan, and support our agricultural industry. More-so smaller farmers.

Oh another thing, the food in Kenya tastes so good because it is not over processed, and I hope to god we can use less pesticides & hormones in Cows. Organic food here comes at a premium, and in Kenya, particularly in shags, its just a matter of going to the backyard.

coldtusker said...

@afromusing: S Africa has done a TREMENDOUS job in exporting to the USA & Europe.

SA has a temperate climate that is 'opposite' the Northern Hemisphere & that helps BUT they beat any other African country hands down!

Better infrastructure esp roads is an easy boost to small farmers. Why?

It reduces waste & prices thus increasing demand.

P.S. Kenya imports Egyptian & S.African oranges as well. Even the mama mboga sells Egyptian oranges.

BTW, I admit they are 'better' than the local Kitui/Taita oranges.

On the other hand, we have great mangoes. So I eat more mangoes.

Louis said...

i would rather sell kenya, to build kenya :)because no country is an island

Anonymous said...

This issue of how "organic" food is in kenya needs to be discussed at bit further.

Why do people think that the farmers in kenya don't use chemicals? I used to see them spray potatoes with toxins all the time!

And with the growing number of cancer cases, i'm really beginning to believe that there might be a lot more toxins in the food than you think.

Afterall, who is really checking it.

I don't touch those sausages. Have you read the ingredients that are listed on the back of the package?

Anonymous said...

heard the drug in chocolate therory? this is why all gov ministers are taking a line of coke, it started with the choc buttons

coldtusker said...

Louis: Kenyans need to sell Kenya to Kenyans.

ke: sausages have always been the lowest of the low. Same story in Germany or US or S.America.

Anonymous said...

I always buy kenyan as first resort. My kenyan beer is sierra. I love my belgian & czech beers, which are hard to find here.

Anonymous said...

Hire Kenyan too....we need a new president .... job description available..apply here http://wildaboutafrica.wordpress.com/2009/02/24/job-opening-the-greatest-job-in-kenya/

Rafiki said...

@ porky gourmand: I agree with you on the beers. I know some Belgian ones are available in a bar in Westlands, but where the hell did you find the Czech ones?

coldtusker said...

The Czechs claim 'pilsner' as their own. So could EABL's Pilsner be your Czech substitute?

Empower Kenya said...

I am all for "buy Kenyan" however it has to compete in quality with other brands. I will not buy Kenyan just because.
I will also play the devils advocate here and say that many of these products that you have mentioned here are produced by Wahindis in Kenya. I am not against all Wahindis/wazungus but my experience with them and they isolationist behaviour leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
from mabatis, biscuits, bidco, delmonte, williamson tea, cement, milk (delamere-mzungu), etc

Disclaimer: This is my opinion and you do not have to agree

Are we really buying Kenyan or are we buying "made in Kenya"

Anonymous said...

@cold tusker, the czechs did invent pilsner. My favourite pilsner is Urquell, they claim to be the first pilsner. KBL's pilsner is flat & lacks the hoppy kick.

I got stung the other day by KCC, i bought some cheddar cheese only to taste it. It was not mature. oh well...

@Rafiki, i've not had much foreign beer here. When I lived overseas, my local store had beers from every continent. I sampled the globe that way

@empower kenya, you can't fight xenophobia by being xenophobic.

coldtusker said...

Empower: That is plain silly or stupid. Take your pick. Most of the firms are Kenyan owned. Even if foreign owned e.g. EABL (60% owned by Guinness) it beats Heineken.

What next? All _____ (pick your tribe) to boycott:
- Luo firms (BTW, Luos are also found in Uganda)
- Kikuyu firms (RAO/ODM tried that with Equity)
- Masaai firms (Masaais are also in TZ)

And so on...

Of course, you can play the jesse 'extortionist' jackson card.

Porky: I like Tusker Malt so can't really say.

coldtusker said...

I can't leave the Empower comment alone so out of curiosity I went thru my list again:

Please let me know if I have erred. Considering what happened in 2008, I am ambivalent of this comment/response.

(I know I will regret it the moment I post this)

- Kabazi Canners (no idea who owns it but I have known of Kenylon forever). To me as Kenyan as it gets. It is older than I am!
KENYAN

- KCC is GoK owned but mostly supplied by Central & RV farmers. The Chairman & CEO are kikuyus.
KENYAN

- Brookside is kikuyu owned. kenyatta family.
Built on land (& funds) grabbed from KENYANS

- Daima might be Mhindi owned. I will venture KENYAN.

- Tropical Heat & Deep seems Mhindi owned. Most spices & snacks they sell are of Indian origin. And I like their stuff.
I will venture KENYAN but no idea.

- Krackles. No idea. Watching my weight ;-)

- Cadburys is a multinational (MNC). Should I boycott their chocs coz of ethnicity/xenophobia? Hell no! I love chocs with nuts. And Ol' Jamaica. How I love thee, shall I name the ways?

- Out of Africa. No idea of ownership. Those macadamias are heavenly. See above.
What a great idea to add value to raw macadamia nuts grown by Kenyan farmers.
In my book. KENYAN.

- Weetabix is an MNC thru S.Africa. The best cereal in Kenya. Spoons down.

- Proctor & Allan. No idea but belonged to Unga (kikuyu owned/controlled by the ndegwa family) until a few years ago.
KENYAN

- House of Manji & Brittania. Mhindi firms. HOM has been around for decades. Read 'Biscuit Baron'. I was not even a glint in my parents eyes when old man Manji started plying his trade.
KENYAN

- Del Monte is an MNC but Kenyan grown pineapples. And if you think you can do better than them then do so.

- Quencher is a brand of Excel Chemicals owned by Suresh Shah (ex-Uchumi) & family. The favourite brand during my High School days.
KENYAN

BTW, who remembers Suresh Shah when he was the (only good) CEO at Uchumi Supermarkets?
Shareholders got dividends a-plenty during his days. After kirubi & cronies took over, Uchumi went from hero to zero in 4 years! For those who care... kirubi is a kikuyu.

- Fresh Fruit Juices. Pure Kenyan if mangoes, passion fruits, Tree tomatoes, etc. Of any creed & colour.
KENYAN

- EABL is Kenyan according to my tastebuds. It was only after Kenyans (IMHO stupidly) boycotted the Rights Offer that Diageo took control. But the beers are pure Kenyan. Tusker is the quintessential Kenyan beer. "My country is Kenya, my beer is Tusker". Pole, but I am not switching to keroche's Summit any time soon.
KENYAN

- Keroche is kikuyu owned. Lock, Stock & Barrel.
KENYAN (though I am KBL -Tusker- damu)

- London Distillers. No idea but I avoid imbibing their products!
BRITISH?

Empower Kenya said...

forgive me but I am not for the patriotic "buy Kenyan" unless the product is superior in quality and price.
I am on the look out for my pocket and my consumption not Kenya.
If Brazil wants to subsidize its sugar producers to the point that Brazilian sugar can be harvested, processed, shipped accross the ocean and sold next to Mumias sugar for less then I have absolutely no remorse in ditching mumias for the Brazilian sugar.
The subsidies are a gift from Brazil to me...Brazilian taxpayers are the ones paying for subsidies not me.
So if Mumias (and am just using Mumias for the sake of argument) can not harvest efficiently, lower the cost of production and transportation and package their sugar in an attractive manner then they should not expect me to be a loyal customer just because.

Empower Kenya said...

@CT
No doubt, these subsidies will adversely affect owners and workers in Kenyan industries producing the same products. However that is one of the ordinally risks of doing business. I hate hearing Steve Smith complaining all the time about Chinese batteries---why cant eveready beat the Chinese at their own game? And just because Chinese batteries are cheap doent mean that every Kenyan will automatically go for the cheaper brand (I personally like Energizer and Duracell period!) Are you looking out for Kenyan enterprises or are you looking out for what is good for you?
Enterprises never complain about unusual or accidental events that confer windfall gains. The free enterprise system is a profit and loss system. (Kenyan companies need to compete on quality and price not blind loyalty)

coldtusker said...

Empower: Please note my gripe has NOTHING to do with value. Why pay more for less? Even if Kenyan.

The issue I had was your definition of Kenyan. That's like saying Barack Obama is not an American (erm, yes... Kenyans - esp Luos- claim him as one of their own but...)

After 45 years you have to accept that Bamburi (or EAPC or ARM) is as Kenyan as it gets.

BTW, Mumias until a few years ago was owned in large part by Booker & Tate yet I never looked at it as being a British firm.

I equate Made in Kenya = Kenyan

Empower Kenya said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Empower Kenya said...

I think I used to enjoy Kenyan goods more when I was abroad.
Now that I am back home loyalty is out the door and value and pricing is the determining factor for now.

I do appreciate your position though

Unknown said...

@Empower kenyan & Ke

You base your perceptions of poor quality on.. what?

1. If mere allegations. And if you are African. SHAME ON YOU.

2. If you have evidence (e.g. conducted a scientific survey and/or controlled lab analysis); and you are African. And you havent reported to KBS. then SHAME ON YOU.

3. If you are foreigners (as I truly believe). Whether mentally or physically. then f*ck you. We love our country and we shall rise above your propaganda and brainwashing.

Empower Kenya said...

@Maishiniski
am a kenyan and I am proud to be Kenyan and love Kenya, but I still stand by my argument.
I welcome you vulgar comments and insults. Thank you for you contribution. F*ckin me or shaming me says much for your ability to argue a particular topic.
why dont convince me why I should buy Kenyan all the time instead of silly and immature insults?

Anonymous said...

@empowe kenyan,

I think he used "if" to qualify... where do you fit in? Why are you offended if you dont meet the criteria he specified?

We talk about national pride and then trash our country and its products.

What kind of twisted dysfunctional national pride is that?

coldtusker said...

People... please, no insults.

My position is clear... I want value. If I find a Kenyan product that provides me with the best value... I will buy it.

If I get equal value between 2 products I will choose the Kenyan brand/product.

Value in economics is not always price. It could be taste or preferences.

Brands are there to convince people they (brand X) are the best value.

coldtusker said...

One brand I do not ascribe value to:

The Kenyan Politician

Anonymous said...

@CT,

Hear! Hear!

kay em said...

True that. BUY KENYAN BUILD KENYA. Kenyans have got the biggest appetite for imported products.For those who love wine, there's locally produced YATTA WINES,GRAPE JUICES E.T.C BY KENYA WINE AND THEY'RE NOT BAD AT ALL. LET'S PROMOTE OUR LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS.PERSONALLY, I BUY KENYAN ALL THE TIME!

Anonymous said...

Hey There. I found your blog using msn. This is an extremely well written article.
I'll make sure to bookmark it and return to read more of your useful information. Thanks for the post. I'll definitely return.
Here is my website :: prevent

Anonymous said...

Somebody essentially lend a hand to make critically posts I would state.
This is the first time I frequented your web
page and so far? I surprised with the analysis you made to create this actual
put up incredible. Wonderful process!

Stop by my page :: loose-tongued

Anonymous said...

I do believe all the ideas you have introduced on your
post. They are really convincing and will definitely work.
Still, the posts are too brief for starters. May you please extend them a little from subsequent time?
Thanks for the post.

My weblog :: hair style
my page: katherine heigl

Anonymous said...

The Crust: On the box they use the words "upper" crust so lets talk about that first.
The Journal article goes on to point out "Corn is up 44%, milk is up 6. They built a hugely successful business on that one competitive difference.

my weblog; check this out

Anonymous said...

Everyone who is into style depends on a great stylist to look good and help with hair issues and problems.

This article will explain the hair product diversion conspiracy
and list ways that you can determine whether or not the beloved
salon brand you saw in Walgreens last week was
truly diverted merchandise or strategically placed by the powers that be.
Soon after this, use curl lotion all more than your hair, and make use of mousse
and squeeze this in your hair to that your curls seem
flawless.

Here is my page hair products

Anonymous said...

Instead, put grass clippings to use as mulch for your garden.
Cypress mulch has organic compounds that are allelopathic.
The less competition, the better off your plants will be.



Here is my website ... mulching

Anonymous said...

Make sure to evenly cover your hair, especially
the tips. It can also be left in the hair as a conditioner but it may be hard
to explain the tomatoes. Once you have determined what kind of texture your hair has,
you can then start using one of the techniques described
below to improve it. Ideally, prepare the day before dilution and in the evening,
put the mixture in the palm of your hand and apply and hold your hair and scalp.
* Apply oil unto your hair - Run your fingertips through your hair and
rub it in an even way.

Review my web blog :: hairstyles for women

Anonymous said...

Make sure to evenly cover your hair, especially the
tips. For the thick and curly hair, it is
best to use the Moroccan Oil. I confess that I was a little bit skeptical at initially.
Yet, lack of moisture can also cause breakage, split-ends and brittle
hair. Customers have always given Moroccan Oil products the highest ratings.


Review my homepage :: bridal hairstyles

Anonymous said...

Yeast infection cannot be eliminated if only treated with a one-dimensional treatment like
antibiotics, creams, pills, or detox diets. The Bluetooth Headset is a symbol of recognition and acceptance.
A good personal injury lawyer can save you from making a great deal of mistakes and can shoulder much of the hassle of knowing what
to do about car repairs, car rentals, medical treatment, witness
statements and the like. If the other driver makes any admissions of fault,
write those down as well. You must be introduced with a display screen with several alternatives one particular of which will be safe
mode with networking.

Feel free to surf to my webpage :: maukin

Anonymous said...

You'll be able to frequently obtain them for less than 50 % of their first price, which means you may receive a $1200 device for just $600 and at times much less!

Here is my weblog - adjustable dumbbells

Anonymous said...

No Xtreme is a system developed to increase the standard of
nitric oxide inside your blood.

Feel free to visit my web-site: bowflex selecttech 552 adjustable dumbbells

Anonymous said...

You'll be able to instantly alter the weights from five lbs fifty two.

Feel free to visit my website Report abuse

Anonymous said...

The coil is contained within a modest canister that resembles the free bodyweight plates that add heft to usually encountered
wellbeing club exercise equipment.

my web-site Http://Www.Getfitnstrong.Com/Bowflex-Dumbbells/Bowflex-Selecttech-552-Adjustable-Dumbbells

Anonymous said...

Should you have serious joint and/or back troubles, cushioning
might not be sufficient for you personally.

Feel free to surf to my blog post ... SITEMAP

Anonymous said...

Hello, after reading this аmazing post i am tоo glad
to shaгe my knowledgе herе with colleagueѕ.


Feеl free to visit my blοg post - http://flashans.ru/

Anonymous said...

Through his numerous Internet marketing opportunities, Matt Gagnon was in a position
to teach thousands of men and women on tips on how to earn from household.


Here is my blog :: dumbbell sets

Anonymous said...

Toss those folks into your mix, and you happen to be now seeking in a somme of about 60% -- regarding the very same proportion that qualifies as obese from the United states of america.


My website: bowflex adjustable dumbbells

Anonymous said...

Possibly you are carrying out the same exercise
routines as all people else but are not satisfied with your development.


Have a look at my web site ... click the up coming website

Anonymous said...

Hey Cold Tusker. I'm a bit late to the party. I was actually looking for the name of the CEO of Excel Chemicals and stumbled on this post.
Imports for the longest time have been cheaper.
Manufacturing in Kenya is expensive business and the margins/mark ups meant high prices. Well, that has since changed.
Oh and London Distillers is actually purely an Indian Firm. Probably was British owned in the 20th Century

Unknown said...

Good day friends, I am so happy I got my loan from Mr Steven Ryan Finance, I saw recommendation on TV that Mr Steven Ryan grants business loan, personal loans, mortgage loans, debt consolidation loans and more so I emailed him via(Stevenryanfinance@gmail.com) you can also email him if you need a loan okay.

yanmaneee said...

off white
nike air vapormax
nike vapormax
longchamp bags
jimmy choo shoes
supreme hoodie
adidas nmd
nike air max
kobe shoes
nike air max

noke said...

get redirected here bags replica gucci get more This Site find more More Help

Unknown said...

Discover More Here straight from the source try these out this content pop over to these guys discover here

Unknown said...

useful reference high quality designer replica find more info high replica bags click for more Hermes Dolabuy